
{"id":12109,"date":"2026-02-12T02:00:02","date_gmt":"2026-02-12T01:00:02","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/yun-berlin.com\/journal\/?p=12109"},"modified":"2026-02-12T17:12:44","modified_gmt":"2026-02-12T16:12:44","slug":"stoke-restaurant-interview","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/yun-berlin.com\/journal\/stoke-restaurant-interview\/","title":{"rendered":"ONE YEAR OF BERLIN\u2019S CELEBRATED RESTAURANT STOKE"},"content":{"rendered":"<h5>A Conversation with Jeff Claudio and Jessica Tan<\/h5>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">A year ago, Jeff Claudio, Niklas Harmse, and Jessica Tan opened <a href=\"https:\/\/www.stokeberlin.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Stoke<\/a>, a restaurant centered on yakitori\u2014Japanese charcoal-grilled chicken. Stoke is an L-shaped dining space with a wraparound bar and banquette seating, all oriented toward the grill. While seated in the prime location closest to the grill, guests watch as the chefs present dish-by-dish, setting exquisite offerings along the edge of the bar. The dishes are straightforward, with reduced elements that complement the highlight of the menu: the fourteen different parts of the chicken, each served as an individual skewer.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Jeff Claudio, head chef, was recently awarded \u201cRising Star of the Year\u201d by the <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Berliner Meisterk\u00f6che<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. Although Stoke is new to Berlin, Claudio spent years leading teams at high profile restaurants around the world. He constructs his menus with precision and creativity. Drawing on her background in art direction and fine-dining, Jessica Tan leads the hosting and plays a key role in the restaurant\u2019s operations. Their team is made up of energetic talent with experience at some of Berlin\u2019s most exciting restaurants.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I met Tan and Claudio one morning at their restaurant near Potsdamer Platz, their team already busy prepping for dinner service. Built in 1911\u201312, the building first served as a department store and is under <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Denkmalschutz<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> (historic preservation), meaning any alterations require rigorous approval\u2014a process that extended the restaurant\u2019s interior construction by several years.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Anticipation for Stoke had been building in part because of their <a href=\"https:\/\/www.affin.design\/projects-ii\/yakitori-popup-restaurant-berlin\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Torikabin<\/a> project (2023), a pop-up restaurant in the truest sense: a wooden cabin assembled on the roof of Aufbau Haus near Moritzplatz, not far from where the restaurant was being constructed.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>KATHARINE WIMETT:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> I want to start with Torikabin, which was a really clever way to get around German bureaucracy and some of the construction issues you were facing before moving into this current space.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>JEFF CLAUDIO:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Torikabin came out of pure frustration. We learned there was really no end in sight for finishing this space. We received the timeline for construction and it was exceeding a year, and we realized we needed to do something. Here\u2019s the thing\u2014within Jess and I\u2019s work relationship, I have these thoughts\u2026<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>JESSICA TAN:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> You mean\u2026 crazy ideas.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>CLAUDIO:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> They can be pretty outside the box.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>TAN:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> But then when they <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">are<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> possible\u2026<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>CLAUDIO:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Jess can see the vision I may have and be realistic with it. She knows a lot more than I do. Jess is the one who brings things to life, putting ideas into motion. Torikabin was one of those ideas.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>TAN:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Torikabin was so cowboy. We worked so much; it was a lot of heavy lifting.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>WIMETT:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Torikabin seemed like such a cozy and intimate space for guests. What were the lessons you brought forward with you for Stoke?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>CLAUDIO:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> We developed a group of engaged guests who consistently dined with us. We want to look after people\u2014to have them feel seen and to leave feeling better than they did before. At Torikabin we really got to bring that to life. And more than anything, we realized the place doesn\u2019t matter. Let\u2019s focus on true hospitality. Even though it\u2019s this wooden cabin on a rooftop, we\u2019re going to make you feel amazing: we\u2019ll feed you, chat with you, and drink with you.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>WIMETT:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> And that priority really speaks to your partnership\u2014the blend of front-of-house and back-of-house.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>CLAUDIO:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Right. The space really asks that we work together, as there is no physical divide between the front- and back-of-house.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>WIMETT:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> What have you learned so far in this space?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>TAN:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> When something doesn\u2019t work, change it.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>WIMETT:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> You mean like switching from a set menu to \u00e0 la carte?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>TAN:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> We always knew that was where the menu was going, but it was about the timing.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>CLAUDIO:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> We needed something to stand on. For an opening you need to implement so much all at once, and live in front of guests. So we needed those first three months of a set menu to have our team get to a certain place, and during that time everyone just became more dynamic in their role. For the chefs, not only technical skills like butchery and skewering, but also how to present the food to guests. Consolidating our work load was crucial in the beginning.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>WIMETT:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> It\u2019s remarkable how much dinner service plays out like a performance.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>TAN:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> You\u2019re on stage.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>CLAUDIO:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> We talk a lot about that with the team. The gestures have to be tighter. Even if you\u2019re absolutely melting during service, you have to keep yourself calm and collected at all times.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>WIMETT:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Tell me about the grill.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>TAN:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> It\u2019s the centerpiece and framed by the dining room.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>CLAUDIO:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> The grill is of course something we cook with, but it\u2019s also an important object in the room. It\u2019s mesmerizing to look at fire, especially as the one cooking over the coals. The grill was made by <a href=\"https:\/\/kama-asa.co.jp\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Kama-Asa<\/a>, a company that works with artisan craftspeople in Japan to produce well-made kitchen tools and equipment.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>WIMETT:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> And to have it be freestanding is very special, right?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>CLAUDIO:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> I learned this working in Hong Kong, where there was limited space. So even in the plans I drew for Stoke in 2016, the grill was always an island that people could work on from both sides.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>WIMETT:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Jeff, looking at your r\u00e9sum\u00e9\u2014specifically your time at <a href=\"https:\/\/burntends.com.sg\/about\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Burnt Ends<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/yardbirdrestaurant.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Yardbird<\/a>, both Michelin-star restaurants in Asia known for wood-fire cooking\u2014I wonder what attracts you to cooking over fire?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>CLAUDIO:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> I think it\u2019s about taste and simplicity, but also the mastery you need to attain. It\u2019s a type of cooking that can be practiced like a craft, in terms of its repetition.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>TAN:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> It\u2019s also about your skill and intuition.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>CLAUDIO:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> You gravitate toward what interests you in life. The grill pushes you. When I\u2019m teaching the team how to cook with fire, I often say it\u2019s like surfing or golfing\u2014every day you go out there, it\u2019s different. You can\u2019t expect perfect conditions every time. You have to be constantly moving, using your intuition and feeling; there is no recipe. It comes down to a very human touch. That\u2019s why I love it so much. It\u2019s something you choose to do and practice with this mindset.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>WIMETT:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> And Jess, what attracted you to working in fine dining?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>TAN:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> I\u2019ve always been working in the industry. And when I was at a restaurant called Acme (acclaimed Sydney restaurant operating from 2014\u20132019) I saw a different world within gastronomy. Acme was actually where I first met Jeff, in 2014 or something like that.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>WIMETT:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> And then you worked for <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/restrelae\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Rel\u00e6<\/a> in Copenhagen, correct?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>TAN:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> I learned a lot from Cristian Puglisi. Because it wasn\u2019t just a Michelin-star restaurant\u2014he had a bakery, a pizzeria, and a farm. To see how it all worked together was incredibly inspiring. Everything grew very fast, I think too fast, but it was an amazing experience to work within all those different concepts.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>WIMETT:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> You\u2019ve both led teams before. What\u2019s different about leading your team now that it\u2019s your own restaurant?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>CLAUDIO:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> When it\u2019s your place, you put a lot of emphasis on the people working for you. When you\u2019re working at someone else\u2019s restaurant, the distinction feels more clear: I\u2019m in charge of the kitchen team and what they produce. But now, I\u2019m responsible for everything. We emphasize a good culture amongst the team, how we communicate and treat each other. It is important to me how the team feels in and out of Stoke, everybody has to feel good.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>TAN:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> It\u2019s a holistic feeling. Because it really transfers over to the guests. We have an amazing team and we\u2019re so grateful. When you dine here it should feel effortless because of the strong dynamic\u2014there\u2019s an ease in the air.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>WIMETT:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> What are you excited about on the menu this winter?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>CLAUDIO:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Yakitori, yakitori, yakitori.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>TAN:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Chicken!<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>CLAUDIO:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> In Kyoto at a restaurant called Monk, they have a dish that never leaves the menu\u2014whatever seasonal vegetables are available are roasted in the wood oven, emphasizing the simplicity of their wood-fire cooking. We want to keep this on the menu as it\u2019s a very nice dish to represent the time of year and have alongside our grilled skewers. We are working with new farmers this year and are trialing new dishes. Also, capons are coming into season; they\u2019re like the wagyu of chickens.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>TAN:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> We also have more collaborations coming up this year.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>CLAUDIO:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Stoke is truly an expression of Jess, Nik, and myself, our shared vision and the kind of restaurant we would want to eat at. <\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><b>WIMETT:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> What kind of expression is cooking for you?<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><b>CLAUDIO:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> It\u2019s a question that comes up often: can food be art? Food is something people consume and it exists temporarily. But you\u2019re making things with your hands, you\u2019re crafting something passionately. It\u2019s an extension of someone. I would call <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/esulee\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Esu Lee<\/a> an artist\u2014the first chef to do a pop-up at Stoke.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">How he approaches his work, his sensitivities to aesthetics and taste\u2014food that encapsulates a life moment or feeling. And when you think about this process of creating, how could cooking not be an artistic practice? In some ways, I would say I am more of a craftsperson in how I pursue repetitive gestures.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>WIMETT:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> In this space, I\u2019m struck by the attention to detail when it comes to craft and art: the ceramics by <a href=\"https:\/\/yun-berlin.com\/journal\/yellow-nose-studio-on-staying-fearless\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Yellow Nose Studio<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thebirdtsang.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The Bird Tsang<\/a>, the tapestry by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/annikathiems\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Annika Thiems<\/a>, and the speakers by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.handhifi.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">H.A.N.D. Hi-Fi<\/a>.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>CLAUDIO:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> We are lucky enough to have a space where we can showcase some really nice; well- made objects, that we enjoy. This is a very fun part of the job, sharing what talented, like-minded people make beyond food.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>WIMETT:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> February marks the one-year anniversary of Stoke. Any ideas on how you want to celebrate?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>TAN:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Cooking with friends, bringing people together, and definitely a party!<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>CLAUDIO:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> A kind of informal standing party. There are so many people who helped us\u2014we want to bring them all together. To celebrate the fact that we finally get to do this every day. We know what it\u2019s like to not be able to do this.<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A Conversation with Jeff Claudio and Jessica Tan A year ago, Jeff Claudio, Niklas Harmse, and Jessica Tan opened Stoke, a restaurant centered on yakitori\u2014Japanese charcoal-grilled chicken. 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